I like what jammitch! said aboot doublesteps.
hellrazor wrote:But only -3 for a plagued file is low that means the lowest score I would have given out would have been 7/10 whereas others deducted much more points for undefined reasons most likely because they didn't like the song or something else not clearly stated, I was at least very methodical and blunt and provided no favoritism other than in the TILT field. HVAM has 2 at most double-steps and if you play it correctly 0, it would have received a 10/10 by me not a 2/10, I'm actually quite capable at performing spins and turns etc due to all my years of not double-stepping by nature and I had 0 people complain that I double-stepped where there was an intended turn or spin.
Take what jammitch! said with caveats as well. He was just suggesting a different grading system at that moment. You don't necessarily need to adapt to it fully (or you don't even need to adapt to it at all) and there are always going to be exceptions, like in a case of where there's a double step every 2nd note. Now clearly that sounds pretty bad.
hellrazor wrote:So if someone can deduct points because they faced in one direction for to long, I felt able to deduct points if the simfile artist doesn't understand how to properly choreograph their step charts for strict pad play.
As much as it could be awesome for judging to be objective, sometimes we need to take it in as a holistic kind of manner. Let's take a random stupid hypothetical example. Let's say a chart has six double steps. That doesn't sound good by itself. But then we probably need to ask ourselves, why the crap were those six double steps in? Do they seem random? Do they seem like they go along with a certain melody? Is it for instrumental purpose? Do they ruin the general playability of the stepchart? Were these double steps really sticking out/really really crappy? Other various random questions?
Consider the other steps as well. Were they good? Were they fun/challenging/whatever? How do those steps compare with the inclusion of the double steps?
Overall, did you enjoy the chart even with the double steps? Do you think they can apply to DDR-style fun or ITG-style fun or whatever it is?
The same applies with anything really, crossovers, freezes, ambiguous steps, whatever. You can have some really crappy crossovers. You can even have some really crappy straightforward streams that have you facing the screen at all times, but force you to go 219 bpm 32nds all over the pad.
hellrazor wrote:I understand both of those are opinions and obviously mine was unfavorable whereas other opinions were favorable certainly they are all valid.
I'll probably be banned now because I was warned to not try and defend my stance for some reason, so FYI enjoy the competition I really liked many of the files from BM5!!
I think this might have turned into the direction of talking about judging, but we can still have healthy discussion about double stepping and the various various context behind them.
If you have problems with BlueSS's decision, you should probably talk to him through the private message system or something and talk with him one-on-one. I can definitely see your frustration given the sudden decision you saw, in which case you might be thinking people are trying to attack you for whatever reason, when they aren't trying to.
These comments seem kinda passive-aggressive, and passive-aggressiveness isn't necessarily good. If they aren't, sorry for the misinterpretation though.
tl;dr: words, exceptions, caveats, double stepping isn't necessarily evil, only evil in some cases
try not to doublestep randomly in ITG
sorry i think bad and i try to be not stupid